unflinching idealism ... since 1997 archivessitemapabouthelpfeedback
where paths intersect
  • Home
  • InFocus
  • Themes
  • Columns
  • Articles
  • Fiction
  • iLogs
  • Gallery
  • Unplugged
  • Writers
  • Interactors
  • Tags
Sign in | Join Chowk
web chowk
  • Unplugged Home
  • Books Movies Music
  • News Sports Biz
  • Off-the-wall
  • Chowk Connect!
  • Chowk related topics

tahemd sahib, I agree with you on arabs except for Madam Shamim's issue....


POST REPLY
read replies 2

tahemd sahib, I agree with you on arabs except for Madam Shamim's issue....

Topic started by Zeena on Mar 15, 2008 10:05:12 am

tahmed sahib
I agree with you 100% on this issue as if you're speaking my thoughts....except for Madam Sahmim issue...

((Post by tahmed32 on Mar 14, 2008 12:41:46 pm
hamza bhai: arabs had no problem shutting of Geo TV to help musharraf suppress the voice of the Pakistani people during the darkest days of 2007.

Not one arab came out on the street during all of 2007, or wrote one petition to anyone in support of Pakistanis, not one expression of solidarity from arab lawyers for Pakistani lawyers, not one street demonstration for "hosla afzai" of the Pakistani people. Saudi kings got exercised only after the US pushed for Benazir to be allowed back and they realized Pakistanis were starting to ask questions about their continuing to hold Sharif for Musharraf.

And arabs hiding in FATA and their taliban supporters have attacked and murdered hundreds of Pakistanis - PPP supporters and so forth - with suicide bombs.

Like bhatti sahib says, the palestine issue is being kept alive by arab rulers to deflect attention from their own misrule. One day I hope Pakistanis will open their eyes to this one-sided blind love for arabs.))


how about the hundreds of pakistanis killed over past several months by suicide bombers? are you prepared to condemn the suicide bombers and the groups behind it?

the israelis can at least claim that they were retaliating against hundreds of rockets launched against israelis. What was the crime of the Pakistanis killed by the suicide bombers? Did you ever write one thread condemning killings of your fellow Pakistanis? Or are their lives less valuable than those of arabs?

I can live with myself because I try to look at both sides of any political issue and then reach a judgement. How can you live with yourself when you look at only one side of an issue?))

Bravo!!! tahmed sahib
Couldn't agree more..........

But, I have one problem with you when you take sides of a Pimp Madam Shamim running a brothel in a decent family neighborhood.....

I will never ever agree with you on that issue, Hafza clans were really brave and bold to take a bold step and tried to throw away madam shamim and her brothel, that was the action each and ever decent and shareef Pakistani should take and should appalud, there is no place for Pimp Sahmim in Pakistan....Period.


flag objectionable content
Posts 1-2 of 2
Post by hurricane on Mar 16, 2008 8:21:25 am

I am in favor of curbing curtailing and shutting down "madame" type houses where they exist, but not by mullah vigilante action.

This is exactly how Talibans started. If you let this happen, next thing you know, the same mullahs will be slapping and hitting our own mothers and sisters for wearing colorful socks.

The mullah should NEVER be enabled to take law into his/her own hands. NEVER.


flag objectionable content
Post by zeemax on Mar 15, 2008 9:29:28 pm

Zeena,

The problem with tahmed saheb, my time-honoured and good friend who is never offensive or obnoxious quite unlike most on Chowk, is that he has very black and white superficial views and never scratches even an inch beneath the surface.

For example, re the Arab Governments, he makes no attempt to see how many of these rulers are popular within their own countries for not supporting Palestinians, and how many of the same Arabs are fighting on the side of Muslim resistances around the world. How Anwer Sadat was killed and how King Abdullah of Saudia proposed and committed to the only working solution of the Palestinian problem which is still on the table. If the free oil between 1998 and 2004 after nuke test, and the $300 million cash just last week to partly off-set increased oil prices was not "hosla afzai" of the Pakistani people, what was it? If musharraf's arm was twisted to allow NS back to have a level playing field for elections was not concern for stability in Pakistan, what was it? Saudia of-course cannot come out in support of lawyers or GEO TV, nor their people will hold demonstrations. They have enough issues of their own. Were there any public demonstrations for these causes in the democracy/freedom loving USA and Europe except those by Overseas Pakistanis themselves? It is extremely naive to expect there should have been.

Re Madam Shameem, tahmed saheb will again support the human rights of a prostitute-ring running woman, but not of those employment-seeking girls who were lured by her through newspaper ads and then promised working hours matching office work so their families would not find out the nature of work - or even that the Jamia girls acted on complaints of the residents and not of their own accord. Besides, he would also not pay any attention to the Cathouse affair in Islamabad where the Islamabad Police did exactly what Jamia Hafsa girls did ... and more.

tahmed saheb is extremely stubborn, and tunnel-visioned - but a nice guy to chat with nevertheless :)


flag objectionable content
Posts 1-2 of 2

Latest Interacts

  • guru: Vedas(knoweldge of manifest) and... Dhokha and Being a
  • guru: Many of the Hindu... Dhokha and Being a
  • guru: Namaskar: My humble pranams to... Dhokha and Being a
  • guru: http://rajivmalhotra.sulekha.com/blog/post/2004/11/myth-of-hindu-sameness.htm... Dhokha and Being a
  • guru: http://dr-frank.sulekha.com/blog/post/2005/01/does-hinduism-teach-that-all-relig ions-are-the-same.htm... Dhokha and Being a
  • Eklavya: romair, I agree with... Government Wins Manmohan Singh
  • dost_mittar: tahmed saheb#359: Do you read... Dhokha and Being a
  • guru: # gary from United States... Dhokha and Being a

Latest iLogs

  • opium 12:22 pm
    That Ghazal - - -
  • arkhalid1 11:06 am
    Who are we?
  • laddu 10:53 am
    Sunnah as a perishable ego\'s attempt at Immortality
  • kaptain 09:44 am
    Soon to be Published on Pakistan Association Dubai\'s Website in Kaptain Korner
  • quin 08:29 am
    Rascals of Chowk and Magic Spell
  • laddu 06:52 am
    The present strife within Islam is for the control of its modern educated munafiqoons
  • Delirium 06:09 am
    8 and Lucky ?
  • kashkin 05:59 am
    Angels
  • crowz 03:33 am
    Three
  • sadna 02:35 am
    Had it been Hindus instead of Shias fighting back
  • Tazeen 12:57 am
    Conquering another language !
  • HP 12:44 am
    Another Bubble coming?
more »

Write on Chowk Interact Guidelines Privacy policy Terms Contact

Copyright © 1997 - 2008 chowk.com. All Rights Reserved
Reproduction of material on any www.chowk.com pages without prior written permissions is strictly prohibited