rahul

yar cobra what is sufficient for you is that they are musslas

all birds of same feather

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The word “Sufism” was known at the time of the Messenger or the Sahaabah or the Taabi’een ? It arose at the time when a group of ascetics who wore wool (“soof”) emerged, and this name was given to them. It was also said that the name was taken from the word “soofiya” (“sophia”) which means “wisdom” in Greek. The word is not derived from al-safa’ (“purity”) as some of them claim, because the adjective derived from safa’ is safaa’i, not soofi (sufi). The emergence of this new name and the group to whom it is applied exacerbated the divisions among Muslims. The early Sufis differed from the later Sufis who spread bid’ah (innovation) to a greater extent and made shirk in both minor and major forms commonplace among the people, as well as the innovations against which the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) warned us when he said, “Beware of newly-invented things, for every newly-invented thing is an innovation and every innovation is a going-astray.” (Reported by al-Tirmidhi, who said it is saheeh hasan). Do we really need any tareeqahs to follow ISLAM ?

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Post by scout_new on May 7, 2008 1:58:14 pm

where've u been cobray, this thread is a slap in the face of all those chowkies who've done their phDs in sufism, like cliftonbridge, eklavya, and hurrichutya,

kyon scoutie?

aag kyon lag gai...not my fault if milkshakes give you gas

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hmmm interesting,

"While all Muslims believe that they are on the pathway to God and will become close to God in Paradise - after death and after the "Final Judgment" - Sufis believe as well that it is possible to become close to God and to experience this closeness - while one is alive. [5] The chief aim of all Sufis then is to let go of all notions of duality, including a conception of an individual self, and to realize the Divine unity."

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j/k cobra.I too don't know.It just amused me that sophism is what kaal,among others,believs it to be;albeit in a long drawn out way.

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i don't think u can classify Sufis into any subgroup within a group

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This is what wiki has to say

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sufism

"Sufi Orders or Sufi Brotherhoods are traditionally known as Tariqa. They may be associated with Sunni Islam or Shia Islam, though the major ones, such as the Qādirī and Naqšhbandī orders, are associated with traditional Sunni Islam and are accepted by the majority of 'folk Muslims'."


If that is true then sufis are sunnis correct?

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Rahul, kyun taang khich raha hai yaar!

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here's a really nice bollywoodized sufi song, enjoy, if you want something more hard core, lemme know, i'll pull up some sabri qawwal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTIkHzMq2Q4

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Cobray: here is a sufi circle jerk..notice them all happy and sleeping

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.asiagrace.com/phot os/h/sufi-exercise.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.asiagrace.com/iran/sufi-zurkhane -exercise.php&h=300&w=456&sz=84&hl=en&start=1&um=1&t bnid=5imLYwyKcNQQFM:&tbnh=84&tbnw=128&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dsufi%26um%3 D1%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1T4DIUS_en___US224%26sa%3DN

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suphism nahi janta!
Chowk should have an entrance test covering these basic concepts.
For now,chew on this.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sophism

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I'm not talking about your fights, bouts and tu-tu mai-mais here on chowk!

Can you point me to the books or web sites where I can research this subject more?

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Post by scout_new,

But cobra never read all these people you mentioned.

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where've u been cobray, this thread is a slap in the face of all those chowkies who've done their phDs in sufism, like cliftonbridge, eklavya, and hurrichutya, they've only been discussing sufism for the past year on chowk

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Yaar cobra, lemme just tell you this. Sufis are great jumpers from below below. Go for it

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cobra

if u have heard this term for the first time than i am sorry i(or for that matter zee, kaal, echo) wont be able to explain it for u.u seem to me a 72(satra bahatra)years old baby.

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